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Admission criteria for architecture
what is the criteria f0r getting admissi0n
f0r architecture? I m new here n I m interested in architecture...please I need a pr0per guide n help..
Tayyaba Sarwar
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Admission criteria for architecture
Tayyaba, apart from anything else you will need a portfolio of your creative graphic work (drawings, doodles, photographs)to show at interviews.

In other words, collect together all of your own graphic design work and imagery, etc and select samples.
Frank John Snelling
Admission criteria for architecture
ooooooooooo..........thank u so much...:D
yes, I have some stuff like that...actually I am so much interested in architecture but I have no proper guide for this field...I just want to make up my mind before entering into this field...just some basic information about this field..Than-q so much sir :D
Tayyaba Sarwar
Admission criteria for architecture
Tayyaba, going through the academic process to become an architect requires nerves of steel and the skin of an elephant, because having your own ideas and your own designs constantly and continually negatively critised is not for the faint-hearted.

Furthermore, almost all of this negative criticism is subjective and unsubstantiated and the "rationale" for such behaviour is that this diet of negative criticism toughens you up for the real world, even though those dishing out the criticism would not last five minutes in the real world.

And to add insult to injury, you will not be taught design because "either you have ability, or you do not have ability." Therefore, if you have ability you do not need to be taught and if you do not have ability you cannot be taught.
Frank John Snelling
Admission criteria for architecture
Thank u s0 much sir..:)
U really increased my c0nfidence level...I did n0t kn0w this bef0re..
h0ping f0r the best in future n I'll try t0 be str0ng t0 face all such circumstances (INSHA ALLAH)
Tayyaba Sarwar
Admission criteria for architecture
Tayyaba, the last paragraph of my post yesterday described the view held by the tutors and students in my class. But it is a view that I do not share because both design and aesthetics are teachable subjects provided the principles of design and aesthetics are known.

I say this because if the principles of a subject are known then these are the criteria by which any subject can be judged and judged objectively. Whereas, when a subject is without principles then judgegments are and remain subjective because they are usually guesses made at random, or in other words, "The blind leading the blind".

There is an old proverb "In the country of the blind, the one-eyed man is king." So if one substitutes `the country of the blind` for the current subjective nature of architectural education and `the one-eyed king` as myself because to make sense of my own architectural education, I had to deduce the principles of design and aesthetics, so everyone should be beating on my door.

But why would anyone who has lived the whole of their life using subjectivity want to turn upside down their whole worldview? The short answer is that most people do not want change and in particular any change which may result in a personal loss of prestige and power and so instead of viewing the introduction of the principles of design and aesthetics as an opportunity to become more effective, such an introduction is viewed as a threat so deadly that its existence cannot ever be recognised.
Frank John Snelling
Admission criteria for architecture
mhm..
s0 u mean t0 say that bringing f0rward new principles 0f design n aesthetics will be harmful..n will be negatively critisized..
Tayyaba Sarwar
Admission criteria for architecture
thanks for your information bro

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Leo Agustinus
Admission criteria for architecture
Tayyaba, No, what I mean is that currently there are no objective principles in design and aesthetics, but there are many subjectively-based styles of thought which merely serve to confuse rather than clarify.

I define "a principle", as any objective concept which (a) can be applied to any situation, and (b)without stylistic subjective cultural baggage.

The problem is that 100 years the Avante Garde assumed that it was only necessary to literally and physically strip away all ornament ["ornament is crime"] from architectural designs, to create the necessary conditions for `Pure` or `Utopian Architecture`. And therefore claim that such design was "objective" because it totally removed all of the usual cultural baggage.

And while there were and are valuable lessons to be gained by reducing architectural design to `solids, planes and spaces`, such anonymous, amorphous and cultureless design, alienates and destroys and leaves a void in place of the spiritual and aesthetic nature of Humanity.

But because culture, language and thought can never be completely exterminated, each culture created its own version or style, so that the complexity, diversity and quality of difference inherent within each and every human culture enters subjectivity by the back door.

Whereas, the principles of aesethetics and design that I have deduced, define the objective fundamentals of design and aesthetics which are present in every style of design and so can be applied to any form of art or architecture without damage to culture, aesethetics or spirituality.
Frank John Snelling
Admission criteria for architecture
mhm...alright..!! Thanks f0r this inf0..=)

I have an0ther questi0n in my mind as well...,

I wanna kn0w that wh0, acc0rding t0 u is eligible f0r studying arcitecture? I mean t0 ask ab0ut the p0tential and capabilities required f0r architecture...
Tayyaba Sarwar
Admission criteria for architecture
Tayyaba, REUR "Who is eligible to study architecture?" and "What potential and abilities are required for architecture?"

The answer to Question One is that potentially anyone should be eligible to study architecture, but the potential has to be established and or assessed by whatever School of Architecture you apply to. Therefore, you need to show your potential with both a portfolio and more than one academic reference. Given that currently there is no objective criteria and no principles of design, then you will be assessed and judged using subjective criteria which obviously will vary widely from one school to another, and therefore your application depends upon whether or not "Does your face fit?" or "Will you fit in with the subjective agenda of the school?" and upon whether or not you know and are prepared to speak the same language and agree with the same subjective agenda as the school?

In fact those with creative ability only should need not apply, because if you cannot grovel and crawl to the tutors and if you cannot speak modern psycho-babble, then creative ability alone is not enough. Creative ability only is a liability because it appears to pose a direct threat to the tutors, because their subjectivity does not allow them to understand your work and therefore they are unable to control you so they feel their only option is to damage you and limit your creative ability.

And this is the reason why I want to introduce objectivity into design and aesthetics through principles, because if there were principles in architecture, then "the fear of the unknown" that comes from subjectivity will disappear and schools of architecture will become places of creativity and not as dire places to remember with loathing.
Frank John Snelling
Admission criteria for architecture
While it goes without saying that anything I write (and anything anyone writes) can be taken with `a grain of salt` (Latin = cum grano salis). I would ask readers to remember that the longer I live the less subjective my viewpoint becomes, if only because I have both observed more over time and compared more over time.

Therefore, my motivation in wanting to see objective thought in architecture through the introduction of principles into design and aesthetics is purely a wish to create a level playing field for the whole of humanity by removing the inequality of subjectivity.

Therefore, while I would agree that being subjective and taking the scenic route and being able to smell the flowers along the way is both enjoyable and comfortable, it is also lazy, lacking the rigor and challenge of objective intellectual thought.
Frank John Snelling
Admission criteria for architecture
Thank U s0 much sir f0r such a nice guidance... I h0pe Insha'Allah, I w0uld be able t0 d0 the best in architecture... Remember me in y0ur prayers as well..^_^)* may U live l0ng n a very happy life...n may u always be their t0 guide me n help me in understanding the true spirit 0f architecture...Ameen Thanks 0nce again...^_^)*
Tayyaba Sarwar
Admission criteria for architecture
Tayyaba, I appreciate your thank you of my interest in being as helpful as possible. As a last thought for you, please remember that the unhelpful and subjective criticism of your architectural designs is not criticism of your faith or of your commitment to your faith.
Frank John Snelling
Admission criteria for architecture
OKay Sir...^_^)*
I'll try my level best t0 make myself str0ng en0ugh t0 face all such circumstances and criticism...Thank you...^_^)*
Tayyaba Sarwar
Admission criteria for architecture
Tayyaba, You are welcome.

A last thought for you: the Science Fiction writer Gordon R. Dickson wrote the Dorsai Trilogy about a future time. In the second book "Soldier, Ask not" he wrote about a part of humanity who put faith first and to show the depth of this commitment to faith he wrote the following song.

"Soldier, ask not - now, or ever,
Where to war your banners go.
Anarch`s legions all surround us.
Strike and do not count the blow.

Glory, honor, praise and profit,
are but toys of tinsel worth.
Render up your work, unasking,
Leave the human clay to earth.

Blood and sorrow, pain unending,
Are the the portion of us all.
Grasp the naked sword, opposing.
Gladly in the battle fall.

So shall we, anointed soldiers,
Stand at last before the Throne.
Baptized in our wounds, red-flowing,
Sealed unto our Lord -alone!"

The above was written as a hymn to battle, but on the other hand if you can use the strength of your faith to design and build architecture, you will be designing and building for all of our futures.
Frank John Snelling
Admission criteria for architecture
Thank you sir... may G0d bless y0u...Ameen
Tayyaba Sarwar
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