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SketchUp and AutoCad
Hi all,
does anyone here would like to share drawings and presentation methods using softwares and CAD?

School have taught me to use sketch up, autocad, and photoshop and the steps goes like this,

1. Start modeling in sketch up
2. Export model in dwg form into autocad
3. illustrate plans and sections in photoshop

but I found that to export models from sketchUp into Autocad would be problematic because I will have to clean and fix all the fault and broken lines. Does anyone here has a better solution to share?
Thanks.
J Lim
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SketchUp and AutoCad
hi lim,
generally i use to plan in autocad first and then develop 3d in Sketchup / 3ds max and presentation / post production in photoshop.
Vikkram Gotluru
SketchUp and AutoCad
Yeah Lim
its more or less the same practice...
make drawings in cad, then model in sketchup and then render it and add effects in photoshop...
Sriraj Gokarakonda
SketchUp and AutoCad
I think 3ds max is the best in matter of render and quality ,use vray plugin and you will see.
Mohammed Lamine
SketchUp and AutoCad
i am a big fan of sketchup, thanks to my friend and colleague, jenu. he had taught me the basics...the best thing is to clean the autocad dwg, for example just leave the lines of where the window is instead of the double lines of the window frame. remove text, dimensions, hatch etc.. we basically need outerline and inner line of the walls, and the location of door/window..rest can be developed in sketchup
Thomas Thomas Pengattethu
SketchUp and AutoCad
No mohammad, for rendering on sketchup we have so many rendering engines including vray. so no special need of 3ds max. i have recently done my first work in SU, in which i have no full control but easily i can do better work in the next attempt.
Vikkram Gotluru
SketchUp and AutoCad
Thanks all for sharing.
Would you guys like to share how to go about producing elevation, section and so on?
Previously what I did is exporting sketchup model's lines in dwg format into Autocad, print it in pdf, match up picture with shadow from sketchup to the building lines in Photoshop.
J Lim
SketchUp and AutoCad
lim, actually we do things in 2 different ways
1) plan and elevation (2D) in autocad, and after client accepts then we'll do 3d in SU.
2) Sometimes we design elevation in 3d directly, then i'll measure with the measuring tool and draw the elevation 2d in autocad.
But if you want it easily and with less time do it in any AEC softwares such as archicad, cheif architect, revit, architectural desktop etc where with 2-3 clicks we can generate elevations and sections from the 3d model. need not to draw them again or clean up model.
Vikkram Gotluru
SketchUp and AutoCad
they are not only AEC softwares, also called as BIM softwares
Vikkram Gotluru
SketchUp and AutoCad
hi Vikkram
what do you mean by BIM?
And about 3ds max I mean that you have more control on the perception and the lights,
try to see what 3ds artists can do ,but it really takes a lot of time,here we come back to scketch up .it's really the best quality/time you can ever have.I agree
May you all have a nice day
thanks
Mohammed Lamine
SketchUp and AutoCad
BIM means Building Information Modeling. You can search about it on web. Yes i agree about 3ds max. I am working on 3ds max since a long time on various projects. Its best for architectural works but takes lot of time and resources when compared to SU. just recently only i did my first work on SU.
Vikkram Gotluru
SketchUp and AutoCad
yes, lim its not nessesary to do model in sketch up first and then u have to export it into cad. i think the prosses is first u haveto do plan in cad and then export it into sketchup. that will give u better solution and saves ur time......
Harshal Kshatriya
SketchUp and AutoCad
lim, if u want to work on 3D first and then generate 2D from that 3d don't take sketch up. there are other softwares useful for u. The best ones are Archicad (more support to research work and less cost), Cheif architect and Revit from autodesk are few examples.
These are BIM softwares. In these u can generate 3D and from that with very few clicks u can generate 2D presentation Dwgs like Floor plan, Elevations, sections and more details even views also.
Vikkram Gotluru
SketchUp and AutoCad
Thanks all for sharing.
But now I would have to spend some time adapting the new working methods.
J Lim
SketchUp and AutoCad
lim,

if u read books like "Autocad for dummies" like for archicad or "Cheif architect" its hardly takes 15 days with 1-2 hours per day to learn them. They are very useful in time saving
Vikkram Gotluru
SketchUp and AutoCad
What about the use of Revit as opposed to sketch-up?
Elnaz Azolaty
SketchUp and AutoCad
elnaz,

Both are not comparable. Both are different softwares. SU is only for 3D generation. Revit is an advanced BUILDING INFORMATION MODELLING SOFTWARE (BIM). Anyway if you are doing elevation designs go for SU and if you need to do it from plan use Revit.
Vikkram Gotluru
SketchUp and AutoCad
hi guys.

do you guys then recommend to do floor plans on autocad then import into revit to do 3d, elevation and sections?
Jason Montoya
SketchUp and AutoCad
Hi Vikkram Gotluru,

would you mind to share the workflow of architectural project by using Revit Architecture?

Yes Sketch Up and Revit are not comparable. They are 2 different kind of software which provide different kind of workflow for designers. Both of them have pros and cons, for instance

1. in Revit, you can only model 3D building in axonometric mode but not in perspective, unlike in SketchUp.However perspective view can be generated by putting a camera.

2. Revit is a building information modeling software (BIM), when you model a building, components like roof, wall, floor and so on is identify as what they are, things like material properties, U value and so on can be inserted for simulation etc.
And there are more.

Jason Montoya, I don't think it is a good idea for importing 2d drawing into Revit from AutoCad, because it is easier to draw directly in Revit and then do the 3D modeling.
J Lim
SketchUp and AutoCad
actually I always use cad firstly, then i develup use 3d max. And finally use photoshop...

But i suggest to you, to use blender..more simple
Vita Ridwan
SketchUp and AutoCad
Hi
Jim
You can work in 3D perspective mode in Revit. Just place the Camera and go to that view it will comes in 3D perspective.
Correct me if i am wrong.
A-Sketchup deal with 3D Modeling.
B-Auto CAD is Geometrical based.
C-3D Max Deal with " some thing happen in any time frame" so it can be every thing.
D- Revit deal with model based with its information based on the AEC field.
Furqan Khatri
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